Sebastian Vettel Clashes With Italian President Over F1 Fly-Bys – WTF1
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Sebastian Vettel Clashes With Italian President Over F1 Fly-Bys

Sebastian Vettel has gone down swinging after his last Italian GP, blaming the Italian president for a pre-race air display of the type F1 said it was dropping.

When asked by media including The Race if the Italian GP should stick around, Vettel replied “Yeah I hope so, and I hope they stop doing the fly-bys” – before having a pop at the country’s president over the matter!

“I heard the president, whoever the president was, I don’t know, was it the president of Italy? He was insisting to have the fly-by. He’s about 100 years old so it’s difficult for him to let go of these kinds of ego things.”

Earlier this year, F1 announced that it would be scrapping air displays as part of its goal to reduce its carbon emissions to net zero by 2030. But if Vettel’s take is correct then it seems Sergio Mattarella (Italy’s 81-year-old president – so not quite 100, Seb) had other plans! 😡

“We were promised the fly-bys were gone,” added Vettel. “And it seems that the president just has to change his mind and F1 gives in, despite the boards around the track about certain goals when it comes to making the world a better place.

“If you have a goal, you shouldn’t do like all the countries (do) and just neglect the fact that you won’t achieve it. You should stick to the world you put out.” 👏

Vettel’s Aston Martin sadly didn’t reach the finish line at Monza, breaking down early in the race. But it’s great to see F1’s own green-fingered warrior still calling out for a better future!

Great job Seb! Fly-bys need to go! 

46 thoughts on “Sebastian Vettel Clashes With Italian President Over F1 Fly-Bys

  • Yeah ok, but the fly-bys are not the sole purpose of these aircrafts to make a flight – if they are military – they need to practise anyway. Scrapping fly-bys would not reduce carbon print, they would just not include racetrack in their routes.

      • They are… The timing of it, the formation and comunication of it and not only for the military but civilian as well. For military they are required so many flight hours so this just fills that spot and for civilians when are they going to get a chance to practice in such a manner? Should all aspiring civilian pilots have nothing to aspire to? Do you even know how much fuel is used in these aircraft? How about we require that everyone walk to the race instead of drive…..

        • I can’t tell if this is bait or if you are high. You are saying they should stay, but also implying that they use a lot of fuel. Which is the sole reason they need to stop doing these. Also in one sentence you are saying its military training, and in another you are saying it is civilian pilots…. I hope this is bait

          • Daniel Jongstra says:

            Accusing someone of being high while he is talking the truth and knows what he is talking about. Something you clearly don’t. These flybys ARE practice and if they would not do it at an F1 race they would do it somewhere else. Maybe you should apologize for your big mouth and attitude. And maybe next time do some research before you start a discussion with someone that has a ton more knowledge than you.

          • Daniel Jongstra says:

            Sources: US military, Dutch Airforce and Norwegian Airforce. It is also just common knowledge in aviation.

          • Andreas Faurskov Pedersen says:

            Former Danish Air Force (grounds personel) here. When colonels from iøthe bases they where head of, met in “HQ” they often flew there in F16’s. Even the one 1,5 hours in car away. They said they had trouble keeping up their required “pr. year hours” otherwise. They only stopped because it looked bad in public. So now they drive, and fly those hours on other times. So they produce more CO2 now. I’m very much for a greener world. But a lot many political decisions are just propaganda…

          • I launched and recovered a fighter for 2 separate sporting events: 1. A flyover for an NFL Game. 2. Security for the Super Bowl. @Karol_Ber is correct. @Daniel Jongstra. Flyovers are typically part of a “go” a.k.a. sortie. If not, they’re still utilized to get pilots their mandatory hours.

            Source: 13 years as a 2a3x3 USAF

          • 6.1 c. Funding Criteria:
            (1) Aerial demonstrations performed at public events, including those held OCONUS, will be provided using programmed training hours and at no additional cost to the government. The official DoD jet and parachute demonstration teams are excluded.”

            United States, Congress, Office of the Assistant to the Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, and John F. Kirby. DOD INSTRUCTION 5410.19, vol. 4, United States Department of Defense , 2021, pp. 24–28.

          • Just as an FYI:

            6.1 c. Funding Criteria:
            (1) Aerial demonstrations performed at public events, including those held OCONUS, will be provided using programmed training hours and at no additional cost to the government. The official DoD jet and parachute demonstration teams are excluded.”

            United States, Congress, Office of the Assistant to the Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, and John F. Kirby. DOD INSTRUCTION 5410.19, vol. 4, United States Department of Defense , 2021, pp. 24–28.

      • They are military flight practices though. The timing and communication is very difficult to get right. To practice this just before an F1 race isn’t a waste of fuel, it’s actually very efficient, because they’re using a real-world scenario.

        I’m not advocating that they should return. Frankly, I don’t miss them. But to say that they have no use whatsoever is just plainly wrong.

      • Fly-bys are very much time to target exercises. Militaries are keenly aware of the costs of each mission and they are maximizing what they can do / get out of each exercise.

    • I hadn’t even thought about that, wow. I don’t like them regardless, especially spewing the colored smoke, but if they’d be doing it anyway that’s really interesting.

    • Tjidde Nieuwenhuizen says:

      Fly-bys are never done in training. They are only done for show.

      Beside the fuel, I prefer not to see a red cloud of stuff being dumped about me if I’m at a GP. Stuff is properly save, but still stupid.

    • I don’t think they should be ‘practising’ while flying over a few hundred thousand people. Any accident and a few thousand people could be killed. I think F1 is exciting enough and fly-overs are dumb.

  • disqus_1CAX7xVmen says:

    Sadly, too common reasoning in todays world.
    “But I always have”
    “It’s only this
    “Everybody else has stopped so it’s OK for me to continue”

    Good of Seb to highlight it

  • Rotációs kapa says:

    Like cmon, what is going on? Fly-bys are so cool and should be part of the most prestigious motorsport event. F1 should reconsider its priorities, before they became laughing stock

    • Priority should be sustainability. We can’t have races with a world underwater or with major natural disasters. I can understand thinking that they’re cool. but if we can’t do them in a sustainable way, we shouldn’t be doing them.

      • If sustainability is the main issue we should just all watch formula E…

        We are watching motorsport, one of the most co2 heavy sports in the world, if not the most, (these planes are like 0% of the total emmision of 1 weekend, especially since these flights are regular millitairy exercises that would have been preformed anyway as pilots need to make hours in a plane.)

        If you really care that much about sustainability I don’t know why you are still watching as you are kind off contributing to the problem.

        I know I am contributing to the problem but I prefer motorsport over sustainability 🤷🏻‍♂️

      • If sustainability is the main issue we should just all watch formula E…

        We are watching motorsport, one of the most co2 heavy sports in the world, if not the most, (these planes are like 0% of the total emmision of 1 weekend, especially since these flights are regular millitairy exercises that would have been preformed anyway as pilots need to make hours in a plane.)

        If you really care that much about sustainability I don’t know why you are still watching as you are kind off contributing to the problem.

        I know I am contributing to the problem but I prefer motorsport over sustainability 🤷🏻‍♂️

        • I mean, I do watch formula e, and it is quite good. but this isn’t an either or situation. we can enjoy motorsport and formula 1 while also pushing for greater sustainability. I will freely agree that the fly by seems to be a non-issue, mostly just for show. but literally everything we do contributes to environmental issues. we have a responsibility to push the things we love to be better. formula e is a great example, but as is the push toward more sustainable fuels, carbon neutral events, etc. My point is that while talking about the fly by seems like making something out of nothing, we still need to prioritize sustainability as a part of the values of the sport.

        • Tjidde Nieuwenhuizen says:

          The thing is with motorsports, it brings in a lot of money. For companies like Audi this can be the way to fund/test new tech that is better for the world. Test it in cars and bikes that ride on the limit. When it works well enough in a F1 car adept it to normal cars.

          If we keep the amount of cars we have now per person worldwide EV’s aren’t the solution. We don’t have the resources for the batteries. Therefore “ICE” that run on carbon neutral fuels might help us.

          It also helps with adoption in the normal world. Since if I see a car going 340KPH with a tech I don’t know. It adds to its value.

    • What’s going on is that social and so called sustainability do-gooder activism has infiltrated F1 as well.. You sadly cannot escape it anywhere anymore these days..

      • If your values don’t align with the work that is being done to improve the sport, you are welcome to leave. We can talk about how things are being done, but there isn’t a question that we need to do better.

        • I’m not going anywhere and so isn’t F1.. We just have to sit out all the sign of the times polarising activism and hope it doesn’t damage the sport and entertainment to much..

    • Tjidde Nieuwenhuizen says:

      Because something is cool we need to keep doing it?
      Times flows forward, with time comes changes to things we like and we don’t like.

      We got to a point where we know flying is bad. We want all companies in the world(including FIA/FOM) to change for the better. Every gram of CO2eq saved is profit.

      In order keep for our children and there children and so on, a cool planet we need to get ride of things that are extremely “cool” but just for show. Also we need to rethink how we deal with resources.
      But in the end, all we need to care about is ourself and the people we going to love(including (grand)children).

  • As long the planes use Bio fuels if you recall at start of the season for the air displays and there was some exceptions for some types of planes Sebastian Vettel as short memory

  • Why not cancel the actual race, let all the drivers drive virtually.

    F1 e-sports edition! Tiny carbon foot print!!

  • The Frecce Tricolori are no normal military aircraft but one of the most prestigious aerobatic teams alongside the Red Arrows, that, if Seb didn’t notice, made not just a fly by in Silverstone, but a whole display. The Frecces are an italian icon and tradition, inside and outside the Italian GP. Their airshow schedule is very dense too, and they would have been flying anyway that same day for another display. Moreover, the civilian plane (not shown on tv) they made the second fly by with was actually powered by SAF biofuels. And don’t worry about the smokes, they use non polluting and non toxic materials.
    I appreciate the intentions, but this time it was really unnecessary. Again, I wonder why no one said anything in Silverstone. You also need coherency.

    • That’s super cool to hear about the biofuels and the smokes! I didn’t know that. Yeah, good intentions, not the right thing to target.

  • Ohw ffs, just stop this hypocritical do-gooder BS.. This is F1, the biggest motorracing entertainment show on earth.. Not gonna miss this part of Vettel, same for Hamilton with his social justice and diversity activism etc.. We’re already being indoctrinated all the time and everywhere with all these do-gooders ideologies in our daily lives these days, I do not want to see or hear it when I’m watching my F1 entertainment.. Just leave us some space and time to escape it all..

    • We can talk about how to better be sustainable, and I don’t think that this comment from Seb is it, but sustainability has to be a priority.

      As for Hamilton, if you don’t like there being a movement to make the sport safer and more accessible for Black folks and other POC, then you don’t need to be here. This sport isn’t just for your entertainment, it’s for everyone.

      • I’m not going anywhere.. Vettel and Hamilton will be gone soon.. Less in your face activism and just racing and having fun in F1 = me happy..

        • I’m also not going anywhere, and neither is the movement forward. I’m sorry that you aren’t ready for this community to be better and more welcoming. I hope that one day you can see that there is more to F1 than your happiness, and that there are more people who can and will love this sport if they are able to feel safe here. And that we can fight for what is right without sacrificing the fun and racing. I hope you know that your mindset drives people away from this sport.

          • You are not in F1 and I can simply block and ignore you here if I wanted to.. In other words I could not care less where you’ll go or not.. And the only thing I need to see move forward in F1 is the cars, lol.. Hope you feel save without the fly-bys.. Like WTF1!

          • Nobody is not welcome in F1.. Stop creating problems where there are none.. This also has nothing to do with F1 getting rid of entertainment like flyby’s etc..

  • Carl Sciberras says:

    how dare we have something entertaining… its more exciting than the race most of the times.
    there are some of us who absolutely enjoy the added spectacle of the air display, they already dropped it from Melbourne (which was utterly ridiculous as well)
    all in the name of carbon bs

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